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Astro Chat! Part 1 Happy Birthday Edward Snowden!

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★★  Astrologers Leslie Hale and Astrologernyc  ★★


Chatting about ASTROLOGY on Fridays! 



This week:   Edward Snowden

Edward Snowden, born on June 21, 1983, Update! Edward's birth time has recently been released and is  4:42 AM but at the time of this chat we did not have his birth time yet!  the twenty-nine-year-old N.S.A. whistle-blower turns 30 this Friday!  He is being discussed all over the internet as he hides in Hong Kong. NewYorker Magazine calls him a Hero (read here) while Dick Cheney called him a traitor (read here).  Astrologer Leslie Hale has written a blog about his chart (read here) but as always in astrology, there is so much more to reveal!  We will be chatting about his chart in more detail along with current transits and planetary cycles to see what Astrology reveals about this young man.  Is he a modern day hero or a traitor?  Who is he really? What motivates him? 


We astrologers have a LOT to chat about so we are launching a new TGIF Astro Chat!  Check back every Friday to read about what we do, how astrology works, what to expect in a reading, dispelling fallacies about the art and science of astrology, and more.  If you have any comments or suggestions, please leave them in the comment section. If you would like to get a reading from Leslie Hale, visit her website at http://www.keen.com/Leslie Hale and if you would like a reading with AstrologerNYC visit www.keen.com/astrologernyc We hope that you find these chats to be interesting and informative!


Part 1 of chat

Click here for Part 2 of Chat on Edward Snowden

 Astrologer NYC's icon

Astro​loger NYC

 Today is not only the Summer Solstice but it is also Edward Snowden's birthday or solar return!

 

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Lesli​e Hale

 A birthday he will remember!

 

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Astro​loger NYC

Happy Birthday Edward!

 

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Lesli​e Hale

 Happy Birthday, wherever you are!

 
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 Astro​loger NYC

 His chart is difficult because he could be have Gemini or a Cancer Sun.

 

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Lesli​e Hale

 He was born on the day the Sun changes signs.  Time of birth has not been published.

 I believe you have rectified his chart and believe he is a Cancer?

 

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Astro​loger NYC

 Yes, after watching his interview and learning about him, his patriotism, I felt he was more Cancer-ish.  What do you think?

 

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Lesli​e Hale

 I think there is a definite possibility that you could be correct. Cancer is about patriotism, one of many marked traits, and I believe Snowden believes he is doing the right thing. He has some very strong opinions of right and wrong.

 

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Astro​loger NYC

I have a hypothesis about Cancer and I wondered what you thought . . . Cancer women tend to criticize their mother while Cancer men tend to criticize the government . . .

 

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Lesli​e Hale

 I hadn't thought about that one. The Mother relationship can be very important to a Cancer. Perhaps men see the government as the patriarchal figure. And by the way the US is a Cancer Sun sign.

 

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Astro​loger NYC

 Yes and Julian Assange of wikileaks is also a Cancer sun!

 

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Lesli​e Hale

 Yes, he is. Another patriot, although not everyone sees it in the same way. But, in his soul he is a patriot with strong beliefs as well.

 

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Astro​loger NYC

And they get lots of publicity which is also ruled by Cancer - Moon, people like Cancers

 

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Lesli​e Hale

 yes, that is true.

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Astro​loger NYC

Now for the dark side: Edward Snowden has Moon in Scorpio!  

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Lesli​e Hale

A moon in Scorpio is very deep, there is nothing shallow about it It can also be dark.

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Astro​loger NYC

 Scorpios are very private  You need to be psychic to know what they are up to.

 

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Lesli​e Hale

They can be secretive and operate in the dark from everyone else, as is obviously the case with Snowden

 

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Astro​loger NYC

 Scorpios are also intensely loyal and disciplined.  It would take a lot for him to turn on his employer/country.

 

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Lesli​e Hale

 Which brings us to the possibility that he was compromised in some manner, there is a lot of transiting Neptune in his chart

 Astrologer NYC's icon

Astro​loger NYC

Do you think he is mislead a bit?

 


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Lesli​e Hale

 Mars opposing Neptune individuals can be misled or they can mislead as well. I always say they have their own way of thinking that does not generally fit the norm.

They often feel they have been shafted in some way, and sometimes that is true. But their own thinking can be self defeating in some way as well. Mars-Neptune is a complex configuration in any chart.

 

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Astro​loger NYC

One thing is for sure, he thinks a LOT with Mercury, Mars in Gemini opposed Jupiter/Uranus in Sagittarius

 

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Lesli​e Hale

 Absolutely!  Many people have a negative image of him, but this man is far from stupid


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Astro​loger NYC

He can process a lot of data, and he can keep a secret.  Perfect for spy work.

 

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Lesli​e Hale

 Actually he has the perfect chart for spy work and lived his chart to the max

We are what we are!

 

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Astro​loger NYC

but he lacks any planets in earth . .

 

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Lesli​e Hale

 grounding...he is all about thought and information

 

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Astro​loger NYC

so he might not be realistic about his expectations or care about material things.

 

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Lesli​e Hale

he could blow things out of proportion. Ideas are big to him

 

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Astro​loger NYC

He said in his interview that he knows his life will always be in danger now.

 

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Lesli​e Hale

 and I think his thinking there is correct

 

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Astro​loger NYC

His ideals seem more important than his own life!

 

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Lesli​e Hale

 he seems willing to die for them if he has to

 

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Astro​loger NYC

His lack of earth may be somewhat compensated for by exalted Saturn in Libra conj Pluto

 

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Lesli​e Hale

But, he has several oppositions in Gemini-Sag, especially if he is indeed a Gemini This planets represent the 3rd-9th house axis of speech and communication/ideas. This is what dominates his chart and his life.

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Astro​loger NYC

and with Venus in Leo, he doesn't mind a little attention

 

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Lesli​e Hale

This is true!

 He also has a Saturn-Pluto conjunction in Libra

 

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Astro​loger NYC


He is very ambitious, secretive in career, plays life/death with his career, his ideas transform the world!

 

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Lesli​e Hale

 And he can be firm in his convictions and a little vengeful

 

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Astro​loger NYC

he was born to change the world!


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Lesli​e Hale

it is no surprise that his information comes to light on the Uranus-Pluto square which dominates the sky. This was-is his destiny to reveal this information

 

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Astro​loger NYC


He has some difficult transits coming up..

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Lesli​e Hale

Neptune will square Uranus in his chart. I have actually seen this in some of the dictators that have gone underground on the run.

It shows they will be dealing with unfamiliar people and circumstances and a very unclear future.

 

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Astro​loger NYC


Neptune squaring all of those planets in Gemini/Sag will confuse issues, make him paranoid, and possibly become an idol in the future


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and of course Saturn will conjunct his moon--we cant say exactly when without a time of birth-perhaps now.

 This is generally associated with depression and isolation to name a few.

 

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Astro​loger NYC


A difficult time, separation from family, which if he is a Cancer, would take a toll on him.

 

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Lesli​e Hale

 I think the separation from family and his girlfriend is a major issue right now



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