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This week:
Miss Cleo (Youree Dell Harris)
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This week:
Miss Cleo (Youree Dell Harris)
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Clik here to view.Famous former actress and hotline psychic, Miss Cleo is still an instantly recognizable name a decade after her phone reading empire collapsed.
Her no-nonsense, abrupt, and aggressive approach to her readings along with a fake Jamaican accent, made her an instant hit in the many commercials which advertised her telephone readings.
Her character has spawned many comic skits and even songs like "THE MISS CLEO SONG" created by Dwayne Milan which is on youtube and can be downloaded from Itunes.
Love her or loathe her, she is a pop culture icon - the most famous phone psychic ever and an example skeptics use to attack psychic phone readers.
Who is she? How did she become so famous? Is she really psychic?
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We astrologers have a LOT to chat about!! Check back every Friday to read about what we do, how astrology works, what to expect in a reading, dispelling fallacies about the ancient art and science of astrology, and more. If you have any comments or suggestions, please leave them in the comment section. If you would like to get a reading from Leslie Hale, visit her website at http://www.keen.com/Leslie Hale and if you would like a reading with AstrologerNYC visit www.keen.com/astrologernyc. We hope that you find these chats to be interesting and informative!
Part 1
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Astrologer NYC
So today we chat about Miss Cleo who turned 51 this past Monday!
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Leslie Hale
The first thing I noticed about Miss Cleo is Neptune is Scorpio that lies in her second house of money. This is both good and bad..As it trines her Jupiter this gives her some psychic abilities, but as it squares her Sun she took shortcuts in making money and as we all know did some very deceptive things with her organization. She became persona non grata in the psychic world.
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Astrologer NYC
you covered a lot there!
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What I found interesting about that whole fiasco of her Psychic Readers Network, was that her partners were charged with unsolicited emails and fraudulent charges but SHE wasn't charged with anything!!!!
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Leslie Hale
But it ruined her reputation and took down her organization
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Astrologer NYC
Ah yes that is true. She had her reputation destroyed, R-10th in 12th Mercury
Mercury rules 1st and 10th so her personality and her career together destroyed
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Leslie Hale
it looks to me like she has troubles as we write this with Saturn square her moon..
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and Neptune opposing several planets in her 12th house. The 12th house rules troubles and prisons
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Astrologer NYC
Or she will soon, Saturn effects can happen after the aspect perfects but I'd expect some problems
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absolutely and they will likely be connected to work
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in her natal chart she has Mars in Gemini (answering quickly & sharply) and square her Asc. So she become famous for her sassy readings, telling it like it is with people.
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yes, and she has Pluto opposing Jupiter making her very ambitious. Perhaps not afraid to do thing others would consider illegal.
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She is a very practical person, Earth Asc, Moon and Asc ruler exalted in Virgo. I think her business acumen kept her from having to pay anything. She made sure she was covered legally. She may talk about the other side but her feet a firmly planted on the ground.
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What do you think was in her chart that saved her from being charged with anything?
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She has a similarity to Edward Snowden, powerful Asc ruler opposed powerful 7th house ruler (Jupiter) so she makes powerful enemies (govt) but she doesn't give in to them. She is very very intelligent and knows how to manipulate people, things, legal maneuverings to her advantage
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I see her Venus is in Libra trine Saturn. This aspect helps her. Venus Libra can come across well (and Nice), and Saturn can give grounding and stability too.
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yes she has many powerfully placed planets! That Venus makes her very well-liked. I read that she does readings in Florida now in a café and she is very popular.
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I think her notoriety might attract a lot of people.
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she was only in her 30s when the she was on the psychic network, I thought she seemed older. Must have been that Venus trine Saturn
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Leslie Hale
no doubt it was. That would give her opportunities in life to make money also. What year did her organization go down?
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In 2002, the FTC charged the company's owners and Harris' promoters, Steven Feder and Peter Stotz, with deceptive advertising, billing and collection practices; Harris (Miss Cleo) was not indicted.
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Neptune conjuncted her Saturn that year. That is a very significant transit and can lead to the dissolution of many things, people and situations in life. If you have done something wrong it will often come back to haunt you.
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I didn't follow it when it happened but from the videos I watched with her doing readings, she seemed legit
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Saturn was also in Gemini and would conjunct her mars-midheaven. This would either destroy or solidify something and with other transits it destroyed.
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SO do you think she has psychic abilities?
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Astrologer NYC
Yes it does seem like she had them. Of course not everyone who worked on this psychic hotline were really psychics and they had scripts they read. So the company did a lot of deception but it wasn't directly from her performance
If she had called an astrologer they could have warned her what a transit like Neptune-Saturn can actually bring.
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But she ran the organization, right?
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No some partners did - the men mentioned. She says that she was just the show piece basically. According to wikipedia
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When Neptune conjuncts Saturn it often brings a situation where the person feels they have been screwed in some way. Generally it is because they have!
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You have to watch out for that one!
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She has taken the full responsibility in the pubic opinion. No one knows the other men who actually did the fraud and deception!
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She should not take partners with her Merc opp Jupiter
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The more oppositions in a persons chart the more problems they have with other people.
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She also has Jupiter-Pluto
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She was an actress and did fake a Jamaican accent (Sun in Leo) so that was used against her. (in public opinion)
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